The purpose of this blog is to show some of the evidence for the genocide of the jews (the holocaust) by the NSDAP (nazi party in germany) during ww2.
I will mainly focus on the use of gaschambers as a means of killing, since its one of the most common topic of discussions among revisionist authors as well as right wing extremist people who deny the holocaust.
I will mainly write about the Auschwitz II Birkenau camp, since it is often discussed, and since I've personally focused on that camp when studying the holocaust.
A primary point is to show the absurdity of the revisionist view of the holocaust, since they often say things like
- "human testimonies means nothing" (when human testimonies is presented, though all human testimonies can't be althrough disregarded just like that if you want to be scientific. Any historian must consider the human testimonies of a event especially when there are many testimonies),
- "they were tortured" (without presenting any proof of the use of torture in the testimony presented, except some other people that was tortured for other reasons at other places by other people)
- "they lied because they are jews, all jews lie" (a unscientific, racist and offensive comment)
- "this person said some numbers that are incorrect or unrealistic, therefor everything he/she says means nothing, he/she is althrough a liar and cannot be trusted at all" (especially remembering numbers of people filling up a room is pretty hard, and even if a person would exaggerate a detail in his/her story, that doesnt mean everything he/she says is a planned outright lie based on some conspiracy groups agenda, and its very unscientific and racist to disregard someone just because he is a jew).
People who deny the holocaust (or the use of gaschambers as a means of genocide by the nazis during ww2) seem to believe they can undermine everything by just pointing out minor errors in testimonies. And that's where the conspiracy comes in. It's based on the idea that there is a agenda behind all human testimonies. This agenda is usually racist, antisemitic, though mostly disguised in many ways. Some say it is all Gräuelpropaganda (german: atrocity propaganda stories), some old war propaganda of the enemies cruelties still flourishing. They pick up real old fake stuff, like the soap made of jewish fat from victims, or lampshades made of jewish skin, proven false a long time ago, or the shrunken heads. They love to bring up these old stuff though modern historians don't believe in them and seldom mention them.
Their worldview seem to be based on simplicity. It's like they can't (or are not interested in) accepting that the world and history is complex. It is true that both the axis powers and the allies used propaganda. It is also true that some things believed by historians in the past is now disregarded or revised, for example which camps used gas chambers and how many victims died at the auschwitz camp. History is always revised by historians.
History will show what stands the test of time. If the gaschambers is to be considered one of those old atrocity stories it must be part of a very complex (and absurd and impossible) tree of propaganda. It is simply absurd that so many people would be involved and still today continue lying when the war is over. And it is also absurd that so many details in the documents, diaries, speeches and confessions by the nazis support the holocaust and the gassings in the extermination camps. We now have like hundreds of "signs" pointing at the same direction (some of them very explicit, and some of them just very convincing) and we do not have massive proof pointing at the opposite direction. Do we have ANY proof at the opposite direction except some desperate attempts to disregard the use of gas by doing test at a museum/memorial site? Do we have any survivors, any jew, gypsie, prisoner of war, homosexual, "asocial". political prisoner or any other survivor of the camp, that have come out and describe how all those old, sick and kids (with their mothers) who were considered "unfit for work" survived after the selection at the platform at Auschwitz Birkenau? It would be so easy for just one or two or three of them to step up and tell the story. He or she would become famous and could write lots of books and stuff, proving his own identity and testifying about what was really going on in the camp. Where are such kind of survivor?
One can summarise it like this: The revisionists says its all war propaganda and lies, and the historians wont change their minds concerning use of gas chambers as long as the argument presented is based on racism and conspiracy theories. One of these arguments is "human testimonies means nothing", "all the human testimonies we have seen cannot be trusted". What we are talking about here is at least 10 (there might be more) SS witnesses concerning gassing at the Auschwits camp alone. Then there are other SS witnesses to the gassings in other camps. We also have a couple of eyewitnesses from the Sonderkommando squad (prisoners forced to work in the gas chambers and crematorias). I dont know how many but i've come across 3 or 4 so far. Then we have many indirect witnesses from the prisoners at Auschwitz Birkenau who often saw new trains arrive and the same procedure take place as they had been through: the unloading of people from the trains, the selection of those who were fit for work and those who were unfit, the unfit walking towards the area of the Crematorias (usually Crematoria II and III near the platform where they were, at the end of the railroad), and these people was never seen again. These "indirect" witnesses also heard about the genocide from other prisoners and from guards. They were warned to obey and harassed by hearing that they could end up like their own relatives "up the chimney" while they pointed at the crematorias. Some of them heard this warning just after arrival after they had been seperated from family members at the selection.
I consider this last category of eyewitnesses just as important as the direct eyewitnesses who saw the killings with their own eyes. If the "unfit for work" people were not killed there in the gaschambers, where did they go? Why havent any historian or revisionist presented proof that they survived somehow. Are they all disregarding the prisoners seeing these trains arrive day by day? It must be pointed out that sometimes prisoners were moved from Auschwitz to other camps for different reasons. But no one have proven that this happened to the unfit for work groups after selection at the platform.
Another common type of argument the revisionist use is the typhus epedemics in the camps. It is true that some of the camps had a typhus epedemic. But several reports by survivors describe both the typhus epedemics and the killings by gassings. One thing doesnt have to exclude the other you know. It is possibly also true that most of those starved, sick and dead people shown at the early liberation movies and photos are victims of typhus and starvation, a starvation that might have to do with the war and also SS guards leaving the camps when the allies came closer. But that doesnt say anything about the gassings. Its just images from the liberation of some of the camps, though sometimes used by the alllies to show how cruel the nazis were. And honestly, if the nazis "just" stole the homes from jews and others, put them in cattle waggons on trains to ghettos and camps, isolating them, forcing them to live under diffictult conditions, that would be cruel in itself, and its no wonder the allied soldiers reacted and the press went there to document what they found. These images was not shown to prove the use of gas chambers anyway.
Then there are some revisionists who point out that there was actually survivors when the allies arrived. They reason like this: if the nazis wanted to exterminate all jews, why didnt they do it right away, and why did many survive. But these revisionists forget that evidence points to a decision by the nazis to kill off the "unfit" right away and then use the rest of the prisoners for forced labour as long as they could endure, until they die off. Survivors also describe that when people got too sick they were sometimes killed one way or the other. There were often selections in the camp to see if people had become unfit for work and must be killed. So the camp prisoners were just kept alive to work, and sometimes they were even given help by doctors to stay fit for work. But this, in itself, does not prove that there was no massive genocide goiing on, especially after the selection at the train platform. The genocide of the jews during ww2 includes some absurdities. Sometimes prisoners were killed for minor things. Sometimes they were saved and kept alive for minor things. The photos of the kids used in medical experiments shows some of this absurdities. These kids were kept alive, but not to live and get better, but to be test objects.
If the revisionists are right. If their view of history is correct and the official historical view is wrong, i think Hitler & co must be very upset in heaven/hell that so much evidence is against them and that they lack convincing proof for their story. They must think that Goebbles and Himmler wrote very stupid things in their diaries, that SS men lied so much about the gassings, even after the trials were over, and that so many survivors testify against them and that no survivors say something in their defence when they were treated good. Hitler must regret alot of things he said in his speeches about "extermination of the jewish race", and Himmler must regret his speech at Posen where he so openly talked about it. They must regret they executed a million jews or more by the einzatsgruppen in Poland. They must regret they talked about the jews as the major enemy in the war, and described the jewish race so evil it must be exterminated during the war for the future to be safe. They must be upset that the overall testimony evidence against them is so convincing that saying the holocaust didn't take place, or the gassings didnt take place, is like saying all survivors of the Titanic, or the WTC, or M/S Estonia, or the 2004 tsunami, are liars and manipulators. By the way, some human testimonies from these disasters contain minor errors, exaggerations and in some cases supernatural events, and in these disasters the early reports included errors that historians today knows are false.
Their worldview seem to be based on simplicity. It's like they can't (or are not interested in) accepting that the world and history is complex. It is true that both the axis powers and the allies used propaganda. It is also true that some things believed by historians in the past is now disregarded or revised, for example which camps used gas chambers and how many victims died at the auschwitz camp. History is always revised by historians.
History will show what stands the test of time. If the gaschambers is to be considered one of those old atrocity stories it must be part of a very complex (and absurd and impossible) tree of propaganda. It is simply absurd that so many people would be involved and still today continue lying when the war is over. And it is also absurd that so many details in the documents, diaries, speeches and confessions by the nazis support the holocaust and the gassings in the extermination camps. We now have like hundreds of "signs" pointing at the same direction (some of them very explicit, and some of them just very convincing) and we do not have massive proof pointing at the opposite direction. Do we have ANY proof at the opposite direction except some desperate attempts to disregard the use of gas by doing test at a museum/memorial site? Do we have any survivors, any jew, gypsie, prisoner of war, homosexual, "asocial". political prisoner or any other survivor of the camp, that have come out and describe how all those old, sick and kids (with their mothers) who were considered "unfit for work" survived after the selection at the platform at Auschwitz Birkenau? It would be so easy for just one or two or three of them to step up and tell the story. He or she would become famous and could write lots of books and stuff, proving his own identity and testifying about what was really going on in the camp. Where are such kind of survivor?
One can summarise it like this: The revisionists says its all war propaganda and lies, and the historians wont change their minds concerning use of gas chambers as long as the argument presented is based on racism and conspiracy theories. One of these arguments is "human testimonies means nothing", "all the human testimonies we have seen cannot be trusted". What we are talking about here is at least 10 (there might be more) SS witnesses concerning gassing at the Auschwits camp alone. Then there are other SS witnesses to the gassings in other camps. We also have a couple of eyewitnesses from the Sonderkommando squad (prisoners forced to work in the gas chambers and crematorias). I dont know how many but i've come across 3 or 4 so far. Then we have many indirect witnesses from the prisoners at Auschwitz Birkenau who often saw new trains arrive and the same procedure take place as they had been through: the unloading of people from the trains, the selection of those who were fit for work and those who were unfit, the unfit walking towards the area of the Crematorias (usually Crematoria II and III near the platform where they were, at the end of the railroad), and these people was never seen again. These "indirect" witnesses also heard about the genocide from other prisoners and from guards. They were warned to obey and harassed by hearing that they could end up like their own relatives "up the chimney" while they pointed at the crematorias. Some of them heard this warning just after arrival after they had been seperated from family members at the selection.
I consider this last category of eyewitnesses just as important as the direct eyewitnesses who saw the killings with their own eyes. If the "unfit for work" people were not killed there in the gaschambers, where did they go? Why havent any historian or revisionist presented proof that they survived somehow. Are they all disregarding the prisoners seeing these trains arrive day by day? It must be pointed out that sometimes prisoners were moved from Auschwitz to other camps for different reasons. But no one have proven that this happened to the unfit for work groups after selection at the platform.
Another common type of argument the revisionist use is the typhus epedemics in the camps. It is true that some of the camps had a typhus epedemic. But several reports by survivors describe both the typhus epedemics and the killings by gassings. One thing doesnt have to exclude the other you know. It is possibly also true that most of those starved, sick and dead people shown at the early liberation movies and photos are victims of typhus and starvation, a starvation that might have to do with the war and also SS guards leaving the camps when the allies came closer. But that doesnt say anything about the gassings. Its just images from the liberation of some of the camps, though sometimes used by the alllies to show how cruel the nazis were. And honestly, if the nazis "just" stole the homes from jews and others, put them in cattle waggons on trains to ghettos and camps, isolating them, forcing them to live under diffictult conditions, that would be cruel in itself, and its no wonder the allied soldiers reacted and the press went there to document what they found. These images was not shown to prove the use of gas chambers anyway.
Then there are some revisionists who point out that there was actually survivors when the allies arrived. They reason like this: if the nazis wanted to exterminate all jews, why didnt they do it right away, and why did many survive. But these revisionists forget that evidence points to a decision by the nazis to kill off the "unfit" right away and then use the rest of the prisoners for forced labour as long as they could endure, until they die off. Survivors also describe that when people got too sick they were sometimes killed one way or the other. There were often selections in the camp to see if people had become unfit for work and must be killed. So the camp prisoners were just kept alive to work, and sometimes they were even given help by doctors to stay fit for work. But this, in itself, does not prove that there was no massive genocide goiing on, especially after the selection at the train platform. The genocide of the jews during ww2 includes some absurdities. Sometimes prisoners were killed for minor things. Sometimes they were saved and kept alive for minor things. The photos of the kids used in medical experiments shows some of this absurdities. These kids were kept alive, but not to live and get better, but to be test objects.
If the revisionists are right. If their view of history is correct and the official historical view is wrong, i think Hitler & co must be very upset in heaven/hell that so much evidence is against them and that they lack convincing proof for their story. They must think that Goebbles and Himmler wrote very stupid things in their diaries, that SS men lied so much about the gassings, even after the trials were over, and that so many survivors testify against them and that no survivors say something in their defence when they were treated good. Hitler must regret alot of things he said in his speeches about "extermination of the jewish race", and Himmler must regret his speech at Posen where he so openly talked about it. They must regret they executed a million jews or more by the einzatsgruppen in Poland. They must regret they talked about the jews as the major enemy in the war, and described the jewish race so evil it must be exterminated during the war for the future to be safe. They must be upset that the overall testimony evidence against them is so convincing that saying the holocaust didn't take place, or the gassings didnt take place, is like saying all survivors of the Titanic, or the WTC, or M/S Estonia, or the 2004 tsunami, are liars and manipulators. By the way, some human testimonies from these disasters contain minor errors, exaggerations and in some cases supernatural events, and in these disasters the early reports included errors that historians today knows are false.
I also want to say that anyone should study history with an open mind and be ready to question things. Sometimes the official story can be wrong, manipulated or based on a political agenda. For example, the Palestine-Israel conflict is described very differently in different parts of the world, and the reports of what's going on there focus on different things. Sometimes history must be revised. I think for anyone interested in this particular subject (holocaust vs revisionism) should study both sides. But be ready for propaganda. Just as you might encounter some old war propaganda when you study history, you will encounter alot of conspiracy and racism if you study those who question all the SS testimonies, all the Sonderkommando witnesses, all the auschwitz survivors who describe this horrible event in history. Don't fall for anything. Dont be afriad to study everything.
I do believe in freedom of speech, freedom of thought, and i dont think anyone should end up in prison for having a different opinion. I also believe famous authors have a lot of responsible for what they write, as they can influence alot of people in different directions.
Your blog is really great in providing evidence by quoting Nazis in showing the world how they exterminated millions of innocent Jews and the Evil the Nazis were.
SvaraRaderaBless all the WW2 Soldiers who defeated these Monster Nazis.
I would also point out, Ex Nazi Willem Sassen secretly recorded Eichmann in an interview in the mid 50s in Argentina.
SvaraRaderaLife magazine got a copy of it and published it in 1960.
In the interview, Eichmann admits to the Final Solution ordered by Hitler, the gas chambers, the mass deportations, and the mass murders.
Holocaust Deniers cant use the British forced Eichmann to say this.
Google, Willem Sassen Eichmann interview.
Franz Stangl the commandant of Treblinka who was responsible for 900,000 Jews being murdered in the gas chambers there.
SvaraRaderaStangl was captured in 1970 in Brazil and went on trial for his crimes.
Stangl did a long interview with Gitta Sereny about his crimes at Treblinka.
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/562714.Into_That_Darkness
That Darkness: An Examination of Conscience
by Gitta Sereny
Based on 70 hours of interviews with Franz Stangl, commandant of Treblinka (the largest of the extermination camps), this book bares the soul of a man who continually found ways to rationalize his role in Hitler's final solution.
I would also like people to know about Oskar Gröning?
SvaraRaderaOskar Gröning was a Nazi guard in Auschwitz.
He is still alive. He was interviewed in BBC's Auschwitz documentary;
Here's his wikipedia page.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oskar_Gr%C3%B6ning
Here's what he said.
"I saw everything, the gas chambers, the cremations, the selection process. One and a half million Jews were murdered in Auschwitz.
I was there."
I would also like people to know about Franz Suchomel?
SvaraRaderaFranz Suchomel was secretly recorded for the movie Shoah.
Suchomel was one of the top SS guards at Treblinka.
You can listen to the Franz Suchomel interview from the movie Shoah on Youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NpF3jGmKOM
Franz Suchomel talks very detailed about the gas chambers at Treblinka and the mass murder and gassing of the Jews there.
If people don't believe Evil exists listen to his interview.
http://mailstar.net/Hoss-Memoirs.html
SvaraRaderaThe Memoirs of Rudolph Hoess, head of Auschwitz-Birkenau Concentration Camp
Rudolf Hoess related before his execution how he often felt weak-kneed at having to push hundreds of screaming, pleading children into the gas chambers:"I did, however, always feel ashamed of this weakness of mine after I talked to Adolf Eichmann.
He explained to me that it was especially the children who have to be killed first, because where was the logic in killing a generation of older people and leaving alive a generation of young people who can be possible avengers of their parents and can constitute a new biological cell for the reemerging of this people."
In Hoess's memoirs he's details how Eichmann told him in 45
SvaraRadera"I will leap into my grave laughing because the feeling that I have five million human beings on my conscience is for me a source of extraordinary satisfaction.
At Eichmann's trial in 1960, During cross-examination with Eichmann, prosecutor Hausner asked Eichmann if he considered himself guilty of the murder of millions of Jews. Eichmann replied: "Legally not, but in the human sense ... yes, for I am guilty of having deported them".
When Hausner produced as evidence a quote by Eichmann in 1945 to Rudolf Hoess stating: "I will leap into my grave laughing because the feeling that I have five million human beings on my conscience is for me a source of extraordinary satisfaction." Eichmann countered the claim saying that he was referring only to "enemies of the Reich".
This just shows the monster Eichmann was that he had no
conscience in having millions of Jews slaughtered who did nothing to him.
For those who say Hitler didn't order the extermination of millions of Jews.
SvaraRaderaEichmann Interrogated by Israel in 1960.
Eichmann Interrogated: Transcripts from the Archives of the Israeli Police (1983) translated by Avner W. Less
Eichmann says when the war with the Soviet Union began in June 1941, I think. And I believe it was two months later, or maybe three, that Heydrich sent for me. I reported. He said to me: "The Führer has ordered physical extermination." These were his words. And as though wanting to test their effect on me, he made a long pause, which was not at all his way. I can still remember that. In the first moment, I didn't grasp the implications, because he chose his words so carefully. But then I understood. I didn't say anything, what could I say? Because I'd never thought of a ... of such a thing, of that sort of violent solution. ... Anyway, Heydrich said: "Go and see Globocnik, the Führer has already given him instructions. Take a look and see how he's getting on with his program. I believe he's using Russian anti-tank trenches for exterminating the Jews."
For those who say Hitler didn't order the extermination of millions of Jews.
SvaraRaderaEichmann Interrogated by Israel in 1960 part 2.
As ordered, I went to Lublin, located the headquarters of SS and Police Commander Globocnik, and reported to the Gruppenführer. I told him Heydrich had sent me, because the Führer had ordered the physical extermination of the Jews. ... Globocnik sent for a certain Sturmbann Führer Höfle, who must have been a member of his staff. We went from Lublin to, I don't remember what the place was called, I get them mixed up, I couldn't say if it was Treblinka or some other place. There were patches of woods, sort of, and the road passed through — a Polish highway. On the right side of the road there was an ordinary house, that's where the men who worked there lived. A captain of the (Ordnungspolizei) welcomed us. A few workmen were still there. The captain, which surprised me, had taken off his jacket and rolled up his sleeves, somehow he seemed to have joined in the work. They were building little wooden shacks, two, maybe three of them; they looked like two- or three-room cottages. Höfle told the police captain to explain the installation to me. And then he started in. He had a, well, let's say, a vulgar, uncultivated voice. Maybe he drank. He spoke some dialect from the southwestern corner of Germany, and he told me how he had made everything airtight. It seems they were going to hook up a Russian submarine engine and pipe the exhaust into the houses and the Jews inside would be poisoned.
I was horrified. My nerves aren't strong enough ... I can't listen to such things... such things, without their affecting me. Even today, if I see someone with a deep cut, I have to look away. I could never have been a doctor. I still remember how I visualized the scene and began to tremble, as if I'd been through something, some terrible experience. The kind of thing that happens sometimes and afterwards you start to shake. Then I went to Berlin and reported to the head of the Security Police.
p. 75 - 76
I'd like to say something about this last, about this last point of this terrible, terrible business. I mean Treblinka. I was given orders. I went to see Globocnik in Treblinka. That was the second time. The installations were now in operation, and I had to report to Müller.
I expected to see a wooden house on the right side of the road and a few more wooden houses on the left; that's what I remembered. Instead, again with the same Sturmbann Führer Höfle, I came to a railroad station with a sign saying Treblinka, looking exactly like a German railroad station — anywhere in Germany — a replica, with signboards, etc. There I hung back as far as I could. I didn't push closer to see it all. I saw a footbridge enclosed in barbed wire and over that footbridge a file of naked Jews was being driven into a house, a big... no, not a house, a big, one-room structure, to be gassed. As I was told, they were gassed with ...what's it called? ... Potassium cyanide... or cyanic acid. In acid form it's called cyanic acid.
I didn't look to see what happened. I reported to Müller and as usual he listened in silence, without a word of comment. Just his facial expression said: "There's nothing I can do about it." I am convinced, Herr Hauptmann, I know it sounds odd coming from me, but I'm convinced that if it had been up to Müller it wouldn't have happened.
Why did you stop your needed work! Please continue!
SvaraRadera